Both pens look great I thought for a bit the clips had a black part in the clip but it is reflection from the pens gave me an idea for the future liked the sliding lid on the box a small indent or finger grip may help later on to help open the box. The clever insert, felting or flocking in red close fitted ensures the box looks tailor made for the pens outstanding IMHO. Kingwood can be very difficult to photograph to see any grain. Thanks for the bother you went to to show your good work Barry
Peter.