Thanks Paul
The first case I bought was a 12 pen exactly like that from him but I wasn't all that impressed tbh as the elastic stretched very quickly. Still using it to store pens though.
I've just remembered that Vince keeps some of his pens in leather cases with an inner leaf/page so will ask him when I next call in.
Must get off the laptop and back to work - the forum has affected my production output - time to retire!!!