I am with you on that one Paul, I think they are overrated lumps of cheese.
But that is just me, I find myself going off of all this fill it with metal dust and pretty fancy stuff.
Leave the fiddly crap for the wimin init.
If it don't good and solid it goes in the bin, can't be arsed with the pine cones and corn cobs and watch parts etc
I have recently finished a consignment of saucepan handles and the wood I had to work with was a load of crap.
English oak that I think must have been dragged behind the Mary Rose with a failure rate of 4 in 10 flying around the shed.
Having had that keeping me on my toes I wanna get stuck in all the time and can't relax while spinning now.
Moan over nice ashtray you have made yourself.
