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And Terry about summed it all up some say 3 times the amount you paid for everything it took to make the pen others add up all the cost and how much you want for your time plus some for profit but at the end of the day people will pay a fortune if the have it people who don't wont  as an example a guy with a big yacht paid me £75 for a junior gents F/P made out of a bit of old Oak from the  HMS Victory but a guy from Boston docks Linc's said a biro will do me thank you very much


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