Emperor or Empress?????????????????

[Grump]

Taken Eamonns quote and started another thread with it so as not to hog that one.

Quote Originally Posted by Grump View Post
I have indeed Eamonn that is what this was all about init?

I was hoping you would bring that back up.

I don't believe we ever really got to the final agreement or decision to help any future pen turners in making the decision of what kit to buy, Emperor or Empress

We had allot of people that didn't vote on the final result or even felt they could feel confident on taking part so I believe it's time you nailed your colours to the mast and give you own honest opinions on what you believe to be the better kit.

So don't sit in the fence, make your decision and recommend the right pen that would be the benefit of the forum., not what Brian would buy, cause we know The TT would not buy any of these kits?

I know you will always rise to a challenge..
Doing what you like is freedom. Liking what you do is happiness.

He is quite right in what he says, but then he usually is init?
You don't want my opinion but you'll get it anyway, in brief.
The Emperor is by far a superior kit to the Empress.
Let the debate commence init?

 

[Buckeye]

How much do the kits retail for?

Peter

 

[Woody]

Every kit is superior to the empress they are a rubbish kit that problems change with every kit the ones I tried some fitted the bushes some didnt some fell together some were as tight as a gnats ass Then the issues reversed from R/B to F/P well that was the ones from Axminster

 

[Grump]

How much do the kits retail for?

Peter

Dunno I don't buy em?

 

[Walter]

If we are comparing cack with added bling shouldn't the TB "Spring Blossom" be in there since it is clearly either from the same factory as the empress or it is a copy?

If I had to buy this sort of blingy stuff then I would choose the (Dayacom) Emperor as it is probably the least worst.

 

[paulm]

There is a lot to dislike about the Empress including the bushes and the fact that normal cartridges done fit but I've found a source for reseviors to overcome that and I haven't really had a problem with turning them but what I do like is; they sell for a premium and there is a lot of wood left on the bottom/nib end which gives it a good weight. I had Empress and Roman Harvest on my stand, side by side and the Empress sold first and at the same price as a Roman Harvest... I know its not a Emperor but just to say don't write off the Empress.

 

[Walter]

How much do the kits retail for?

Peter

I would Google it for you but I can't be arsed. Do it yourself.

The Empress is about a tenner from Axminster I think.

 

[Neil]

I would Google it for you but I can't be arsed. Do it yourself.

The Empress is about a tenner from Axminster I think.

Exotic blanks retail them, about the only place you can get them I think, other than dayacom retail

 

[Neil]

I would Google it for you but I can't be arsed. Do it yourself.

The Empress is about a tenner from Axminster I think.

Exotic blanks retail them, about the only place you can get them I think, other than dayacom retail

 

[Buckeye]

I would Google it for you but I can't be arsed. Do it yourself.

I know how much they cost, but I didn't want to spoil the "debate" by putting facts on the table, I thought I would see if anyone else could be arsed

The Empress is about a tenner from Axminster I think.

That is probably as close to a fact as we have had

Peter

 

[Woody]

£16/38 for one of each from Oak craft but the silly thing is they come from Axminster Empress Fountain Pen and Rollerball Kit Set

 

[silver]

I will sit this one out a little...

There must be some of our friends over the pond to put there fourpenoth in

 

[Neil]

Exotic blanks retail them, about the only place you can get them I think, other than dayacom retail

A nonsensical reply from me! I was referring to the availability and pricing of the emperor, which is about sixty usd.

 

[Jim]

I can't really comment on them as i have not made any of the two .. Though i did have some of the Empress kits at hand at one time ..

 

[Neil]

I will sit this one out a little...

Chicken...

 

[Penpal]

I do like the Emporer kit and the Empress as well for different reasons all subjective which is important to me there are now many kits that more than compete. A while back a guy did some real close up pics dissecting the Emporer on The IAP Forum got rubarbed severely because few of us see the castings etc at that magnification all kits suffer from first off the dies etc Monday Kits Friday Kits several manufacturers of individual parts all in the mix. Some years ago a mate in Melbourne said on a PM send me a top blank of your choice and this I did and much later he sent me an Emporer laser engraved also by him as a thankyou he said for previous experiences we have had, I will look it up and post a pic.

Peter.

 

[wm460]

I like the Emperor kits, all the ones I have made are top of the range finished.

 

[Buckeye]

I can't really comment on them as i have not made any of the two .. Though i did have some of the Empress kits at hand at one time ..

I don't think that matters, Jim. Not many here will have turned both so you may have to choose based on photos and cost, the Empress is about £10 from the UK and the Emperor is about £40 from the US, is it any surprise that the Emperor would be regarded as better quality even disregarding the problems fitting an ink pump or cartridges to the Empress?

Peter