Hi Terry. the kits come from Germany, Drechseln - Drechselstube Neckarsteinach, Phil Irons was the agent, but i now get them direct from DNS. They do Pencils, Roller balls and Fountain pen. They are pricey but I get a good return no the kits. Also a lot of special drills etc needed, and a lathe with very accurate centre to centre is required. I have made approx.:pounds: 100 and have had good response and sales here in Spain, they are, I think you call them high end kits ranging from around 15 Euro to will over 100 Euro each.