kit less pen making

[Lep]

Hi All

i like the idea of making a kitless pen do i need a special tap and die set.

Tony

 

[Vic Perrin]

You certainly do Tony. I have not done ant kitless myself but there are plenty of members on here who have and no doubt will be along soon to help you out.

Phil Dart at Beaufort Inks supplies all of t he kit that you will require to make them

 

[Gregory Hardy]

Hi, Tony. If you are talking about a custom fountain pen, you would need the tap that corresponds with nib you choose (both available from Beaufort). You need a tap for the section to body joint (I use 10mmx0.75- I bought a cheap one) and then you need a tap and die for the cap to body threads. I started with a cheap 12mm single start set, but triple start sets are much nicer - considerably more pen user friendly in terms of capping and uncapping the pen. (Phil also sells these. They are pricey but well worth the investment if you stick with it.) If you planned a custom rollerball, you would still need everything except the nib tap.

(Friendly advice: Buy lots of inexpensive blanks. You are going to go through them!)

 

[Penpal]

Dabbling in kitless will severely dent your budget and unless you choose to specialise means a slow determined approach making pens.Working towards them gradually on the other hand while perfecting normal skills with Pen Kits especially those with quality coatings and design may satisfy your needs and aspiration.High end skills such as threading do not come easily or without high cost Tony. Isolate the parts list and materials,sourcing etc and line them up against kits.

Peter.

 

[Gregory Hardy]

Dabbling in kitless will severely dent your budget and unless you choose to specialise means a slow determined approach making pens.Working towards them gradually on the other hand while perfecting normal skills with Pen Kits especially those with quality coatings and design may satisfy your needs and aspiration.High end skills such as threading do not come easily or without high cost Tony. Isolate the parts list and materials,sourcing etc and line them up against kits.

Peter.

Master Peter is right. He neglected to use the word "disease," as that is what it will become. As I noted earlier, buy cheap material (in plenty) and experiment with threading. You will never feel so disheartened or elated. It will become a passion if you fight the noble fight long enough.

 

[Penpal]

I have a passion for improvisation and bought several mass produced pens on the internet direct from China. Using parts of two of these pens (cost about 7 dollars Au free delivery) here shown is one such impro. The nib,ink section and threaded insert. The thread insert matched the other thread allowing ink changes etc. The giant brass cartridge exactly matched when the nib section was screwed in. It is a delight to write with and well inside my budget. So many ways to make pens on a low budget.Also a swap to me from Skiprat made from 3/16 Stainless Steel shaped into a full functioning Pen.

Peter.

 

[Lep]

love the pens, thanks for all the tips.

Tony

 

[silver]

love the pens, thanks for all the tips.

Tony

Personal speaking you don't "need" special taps and dies for all parts of the kitless pen making.

The only special tap you will need is the one that fits either the nib feeder in to the nib housing or if you chose to buy a nib housing then the tap to suit the housing.

As for the cap and body you can use any threaded tap that suits your requirements, the only thing I would say is buy a fine metric thread.

There are special double and triple start taps and dies out there specific for kitless lens, but I would recommend trying stock taps and dies first to see how you get on with kitless pen making,

 

[Lep]

Makes sense to me, thanks

Tony

 

[Lep]

I Have to ask, is that spanner genuine or did you have to drill out the middle section.

Tony

 

[Penpal]

Not my making but a gift from a mate.Yes it will work as a spanner. It was cut from a plate of 3/8 Stainless Steel.Yes it was cut out then drilled and tapped either end and a method of holding the refill and bringing it forward and back fitted. I showed it to you so you could see how normal taps and dies can be used in a pen.

Peter.

 

[wm460]

Personal speaking you don't "need" special taps and dies for all parts of the kitless pen making.

The only special tap you will need is the one that fits either the nib feeder in to the nib housing or if you chose to buy a nib housing then the tap to suit the housing.

As for the cap and body you can use any threaded tap that suits your requirements, the only thing I would say is buy a fine metric thread.

There are special double and triple start taps and dies out there specific for kit-less lens, but I would recommend trying stock taps and dies first to see how you get on with kitless pen making,

What Eamonn said.
I have used both fine and course thread to make kitless pens.
I later bought some 10.75 and 12.75 taps and dies from epay to make kitless baron style pens and got my taps for the nib feeder from Phil.