• Thanks for visiting The Penturners Forum today.

    There are many features and resources that currently you are unable to see or access, either because you're not yet registered, or if you're already registered, because you're not logged in.

    To gain full access to the forum, please log in or register now. Registration is completely free, it only takes a few seconds, and you can join our well established community of like-minded pen makers.

Liming Wax

Burt25

Full Member
Joined
Apr 29, 2016
Posts
147
Location
N Ireland
First Name
Ian
Has anyone used liming wax?- Im thinking of using it on my bog oak pens to enhance the grain and assume it needs to go on after lacquer? Question is - will it eventually wear away or can it be sealed in with a final coat of lacquer?
 

Phil Dart

Moderator
Executive Member
Joined
Nov 28, 2014
Posts
5,491
Location
Colebrooke, Devon
First Name
Phil
It will only produce the desired effect in the short term Ian. It has next to no resilience and will wear off extremely quickly when the pen is handled. You can't put a lacquer over a wax I'm afraid.

However, Plasticote used to make a range of synthetic based colours, which you can paint on then take off the excess with a tissue soaked in the same stuff, or with thinners. You can put a seal over those. I've never experimented with pens, but I have used them on other things. Might be worth a look.
 

Burt25

Full Member
Joined
Apr 29, 2016
Posts
147
Location
N Ireland
First Name
Ian
I found a few posts on the Wood Workers Institute forum form members who claim to be applying melamine lacquer over liming wax with good long lasting results. As I'm only really applying it into a hairs width grain I suspect the melamine may bridge it? May give it a try - worst case it will wear over time bot I think it may add something to the beauty of the bog oak.
 

Pierre---

Full Member
Joined
Feb 3, 2016
Posts
231
Location
France
First Name
Pierre
It is right that if you lay the wax on closed-grained wood, the wax doesn't hold. But on some occasions I scratched open-grained wood (I tried oak, chestnut and ash so far) with a wire brush to have a very visible grain, and then waxed it. The wax hold very well in the pores despite a constant use.
 

Phil Dart

Moderator
Executive Member
Joined
Nov 28, 2014
Posts
5,491
Location
Colebrooke, Devon
First Name
Phil
Great video, and a great effect, but despite anything the master himself may say, you cannot seal wax with an acrylic sanding sealer. It is a scientific impossibility. His sealer WILL wear off, and the remaining wax will stay in place dependent entirely on the depth to which it is in the grain, and therefore out of harms way by not being touched.

But it's in a Jimmy Clewes video so it must be true, right? As he says, try it for yourself, but when you do, bear in mind that the entire purpose of that particular video is to sell his waxing products, not to demonstrate the concept of applying a chemical sealer on top of wax.
 

Burt25

Full Member
Joined
Apr 29, 2016
Posts
147
Location
N Ireland
First Name
Ian
Another option I'm thinking may be just to rub in a watered down coat of water based white emulsion paint, sand off top grain leaving the pigment in the recesses and then lacquer that?
 

Penpal

Grand Master
Joined
May 26, 2013
Posts
25,342
Location
Canberra AUSTRALIA
First Name
Peter
Another option I'm thinking may be just to rub in a watered down coat of water based white emulsion paint, sand off top grain leaving the pigment in the recesses and then lacquer that?

When we built our Chapel by voluntary labour around 50 yrs ago we did the Mountain Ash pews this way, very effective then and still now.

Peter.
 

Phil Dart

Moderator
Executive Member
Joined
Nov 28, 2014
Posts
5,491
Location
Colebrooke, Devon
First Name
Phil
Another option I'm thinking may be just to rub in a watered down coat of water based white emulsion paint, sand off top grain leaving the pigment in the recesses and then lacquer that?
Could do - certainly worth a try. But as I said earlier have a look at Plastikote. They do a product called Odds 'n' Ends fast dry enable, which you can get in either a liquid or a spray, from diy shops, hobbycraft shops and even on amazon. It's brilliant stuff and may solve your problem.
 

21William

Fellow
Joined
Jan 21, 2016
Posts
1,629
Location
Dorset
First Name
William
I think if the wax is only in the open pores of the wood then it may very well be possible to seal it in with lacquer but I've yet to try it. I've bought some blue mica power to colour some plain wax so I'll give it a try when the right project comes up. I like Ash but never seem to see decent blanks at a reasonable cost.
 
Warning! This thread has not had any replies for over a year. You are welcome to post a reply here, but it might be better to start a new thread (and maybe include a link to this one if you need to).
Top