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Thats why I dont buy any of the cigar kits any more Ed some times they are OK and another they are rubbish from any of the suppliers also I'm not keen on the look of them as a kit the clip looks cheep to me which is a shame as they are a nice chunky pen that really shows of the wood its the same with the Jn gents ball point pen the nib end just collapsed when it was pressed in only a fraction but it had to be drilled out so the refill could extend out I did complain about them but to no avail Helen on ebay was selling them

[QUOTE="Woody, post: 44043, member: 192"] Thats why I dont buy any of the cigar kits any more Ed some times they are OK and another they are rubbish from any of the suppliers also I'm not keen on the look of them as a kit the clip looks cheep to me which is a shame as they are a nice chunky pen that really shows of the wood its the same with the Jn gents ball point pen the nib end just collapsed when it was pressed in only a fraction but it had to be drilled out so the refill could extend out I did complain about them but to no avail Helen on ebay was selling them [/QUOTE]

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