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Pen Prices

Vic Perrin

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Hi All, I don't really like to ask this question but someone saw the Empress Kits that I brought and asked me how much a finished pen would be. I told her that I would have to cost it out and get back to her. She wants it doing in Thuya Burr and I have one or two blanks in stock. I really don't know what the going rate for these pens are and I feel a bit cheekey asking you all. I always seem to underprice what I sell but I don't have to make a living out of it.

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good question
i dont make for sale
just end up giving them away
i got my first commission from a close friend
I just gave it to them

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good question
i dont make for sale
just end up giving them away
i got my first commission from a close friend
I just gave it to them

Steve

That's what I do, only ever charged for one pen £5 for cancer charity! No Idea about pen prices :rolling:
 

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Pen prices mine field's go hand in hand from my own experience a lot of it depends were you are trying to sell London charge what you like Lincoln give it up as a bad job LOL listen to most sellers who travel around trying to make a living one fair wow sold out another stood picking me nose and scratching me ass all day not a sale

Vic start with a few slimline pens to gauge the market were you are but in Nottingham I would say £35 if I was still down south £75 at least
 

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It does depend how you view your skills. How long does it take you to select a blank, cut it, turn it, finish it, press it together? If you were working for me turning pens how much would I have to pay you per hour?

The way I look at it is that I pay the cleaner £10 per hour so I certainly don't want to earn less than my cleaner, if a pen takes an hour to make then that is £10 minimum, then there is the cost of the kit plus a markup of 50% as I have had to outlay the money for the kit, same with the blank, pen box, whatever abrasives and finishes are used, electricity, partial cost of machinery, blades, tools etc.

In this example if I was paying you £10 per hour to make a pen I would still have all the expenses after I paid you, so I would have to add more for the profit I want to make which is 100% minimum for me. The amount of profit you want is up to you, but profit is not part of the cost of making it, so how much you pay yourself per hour is a production cost just as the cost of the kit is.

It doesn't end there, if you make a fountain pen it has a higher perceived value than a rollerball or ballpoint, it may not cost more to make or very little more, but the perceived value is higher so add at least another 100%, but if it is something special then just pile it on. It will sell or it won't, if you have people who want to buy your pens then charge them the price you want to sell it for.

If you are just funding a hobby then you don't need to earn anything per hour and don't need to make a profit or not much of one so you should be able to sell by the ton. If you sell cheaply you will become know for selling cheap pens.

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When i started out making pens i was giving them away also, mainly to family and friends, but mostly to people who did me small favours .. After a short time i started getting people whom i had given the pens to asking me to make them a pen for someone's birthday or anniversary or for other reasons .. Word of mouth is very powerful indeed .. Regarding the question Vic, only you can price you work my friend, but in my neck of the woods £20-25 for this type of pen .. Good luck ... :thumbs:
 

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It does depend how you view your skills. How long does it take you to select a blank, cut it, turn it, finish it, press it together? If you were working for me turning pens how much would I have to pay you per hour?

The way I look at it is that I pay the cleaner £10 per hour so I certainly don't want to earn less than my cleaner, if a pen takes an hour to make then that is £10 minimum, then there is the cost of the kit plus a markup of 50% as I have had to outlay the money for the kit, same with the blank, pen box, whatever abrasives and finishes are used, electricity, partial cost of machinery, blades, tools etc.

In this example if I was paying you £10 per hour to make a pen I would still have all the expenses after I paid you, so I would have to add more for the profit I want to make which is 100% minimum for me. The amount of profit you want is up to you, but profit is not part of the cost of making it, so how much you pay yourself per hour is a production cost just as the cost of the kit is.

It doesn't end there, if you make a fountain pen it has a higher perceived value than a rollerball or ballpoint, it may not cost more to make or very little more, but the perceived value is higher so add at least another 100%, but if it is something special then just pile it on. It will sell or it won't, if you have people who want to buy your pens then charge them the price you want to sell it for.

If you are just funding a hobby then you don't need to earn anything per hour and don't need to make a profit or not much of one so you should be able to sell by the ton. If you sell cheaply you will become know for selling cheap pens.

Peter

I'll go along with this Peter !!!:thumbs:
 

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Similar to above. I don't go out of my way to sell my pens but if asked to make one I won't do it cheaply.
If someone takes a fancy to a pen I usually give it to them, they are awed by the gesture and return with a commission at a later date.
New landlord to our local pub sat with the area manager signing papers when the pen ran out of ink, I had a newly finished bullet pen in my pocket which they used for the ceremony.
I gave the pen to the landlord who was so thrilled he asked me to put a display case behind the bar from which he sold many a pen for me.
I made a deskset as a present for his daughters wedding all in white and they used the fountain pen to sign the register.
I sold them pens for the bridesmaids and a few guests gave me commissions.
A young lad got a job as a newspaper reporter I gave him a pen for his new job he was so pleased with it he will not lend it to his colleagues but gives them my card so they buy one.
My prices start at £12.00 for a plastic slimline to £160 for blingy Roman Harvest in a nice Burr, depending on who the customer is and whether I like them or not.
If I hate them it's £1000 init?
 

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Pen prices mine field's go hand in hand from my own experience a lot of it depends were you are trying to sell London charge what you like Lincoln give it up as a bad job LOL listen to most sellers who travel around trying to make a living one fair wow sold out another stood picking me nose and scratching me ass all day not a sale

Vic start with a few slimline pens to gauge the market were you are but in Nottingham I would say £35 if I was still down south £75 at least

Depending on the timber and the quality of the kit you are trying to sell.
for instance a slimline made with Huon Pine i would sell for $A 45.00
A Roman Harvest in Ring Gidgee would be $A180/200
No trouble selling either.
Problem at the moment is that i am recovering from a virus that has laid me low for the last 4 months and will probably be a couple more months before i can get back to the shed. Cheers and go get em.
 

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As you know I'm fairly new to this turning game, I had no idea how much to charge for a pen,I was asked by a friend of a friend if she could see some of the pens I had made so I sent her a mixture of 10 slimline and twists so she could choose what she liked(so really cheap kits on blanks I had been given and bear in mind they were my first attempts so perhaps not as good as they could have been)....... she sent me 100 quid the next day and kept the lot!!! so I'm thinking a pen is worth what ever someone is willing to pay for it!!
 

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As you know I'm fairly new to this turning game, I had no idea how much to charge for a pen,I was asked by a friend of a friend if she could see some of the pens I had made so I sent her a mixture of 10 slimline and twists so she could choose what she liked(so really cheap kits on blanks I had been given and bear in mind they were my first attempts so perhaps not as good as they could have been)....... she sent me 100 quid the next day and kept the lot!!! so I'm thinking a pen is worth what ever someone is willing to pay for it!!

That is exactly my point it depends on your market were you are its no good me asking for top dollar were I live people haven't got or wont part with it it so now I dint bother
 

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This is an old chestnut but really it comes down to what the pen is worth to you and to the customer.

I price my slimlines at £15 because at that price they sell in sufficient quantities to pay the gallery rent and make a small profit on each one. I could charge more but then I would probably sell fewer so it is swings and roundabouts.

Anything else is cost of components and materials plus an hourly rate for my time plus 10% for overhead and profit. If sold through a third party such as a gallery or shop then their charges are added on top.

That's what I do and it works for me (and the tax man), what anyone else does is up to them.
 

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As you know I'm fairly new to this turning game, I had no idea how much to charge for a pen,I was asked by a friend of a friend if she could see some of the pens I had made so I sent her a mixture of 10 slimline and twists so she could choose what she liked(so really cheap kits on blanks I had been given and bear in mind they were my first attempts so perhaps not as good as they could have been)....... she sent me 100 quid the next day and kept the lot!!! so I'm thinking a pen is worth what ever someone is willing to pay for it!!

Is that the lady selling 10 slimline & twist pens on ebay for £20 each Roy? :tongue:
 

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Is that the lady selling 10 slimline & twist pens on ebay for £20 each Roy? :tongue:
Hmmm:devil: well if she is ... she is the one having the hassle of putting them on ebay, paying their fees, collecting the funds, posting them off ,sorting out lost deliveries etc. so good on her !!!
 

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I'm thinking a pen is worth what ever someone is willing to pay for it!!

Cant get any truer than this.

Well yes, partly, that's what it is worth to them, but if that's less than the seller is prepared to part with it for then that isn't what its worth.

The pen is worth the price seller and the buyer are prepared to agree upon.
 

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I agree Walter, in my case, as I'm new at the game, I was flattered that someone thought they where worth anything!! but as sellers the ball is in our court, if we feel the price isn't worth it we have the choice to refuse to sell it ,but we also have to be prepared to have a lot of unsold pens, Im guessing its all about reaching a balance that everyone is satisfied at
 
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