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Red Palm

Les ELm

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On a Gun Metal Vertex Click.
Finished with 6 coats of MINWAX Clear Gloss Polyurethane.

Les
 

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Penpal

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I am a fan of Red Palm however it is interesting to work with the Pen and Palm work well. Like the way you match the hexes close open it changes the dynamics I do it the other way but I always match grain with the tip extended.

Good combination Les.:claps:
 

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Thats very nice Les and quite different to the palm I've used which I guess is white palm.
 

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:winking:
I am a fan of Red Palm however it is interesting to work with the Pen and Palm work well. Like the way you match the hexes close open it changes the dynamics I do it the other way but I always match grain with the tip extended.

Good combination Les.:claps:

Peter,

Fraid you have lost me in your comments, could you elaborate what you mean when you state "like the way you match the hexes", sorry don't understand? They obviously match in that they are gun metal but the hexagonal faces are not aligned so I don't understand. I am confused as to what you mean when you say match the grain, but with what?

Thanks
 

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Probably black Palm Paul, or black palmira, not aware of a white palm

Strange that I to have a bit of white palm I have turned red, black, Toby, black palmira and now white which I'm hoping to turn soon got it from our Dave
Nice bit of turning Les
 

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I have been googling again
Copernicia alba is a South American species of palm tree, which is found in the humid part of the Gran Chaco ecoregion in Bolivia, Paraguay, Colombia, Brazil (in the states of Mato Grosso and Mato Grosso do Sul) and Argentina (especially the province of Formosa, and less abundantly towards drier areas). They often, but not always, form dense single-species woodlands. Its common name in Spanish show the various colours (and technical qualities) that its wood and/or bark takes according to its environment: palma blanca, palma negra, palma colorada ("white", "black" and "red" palm, respectively). In Guaraní it is called caranday, "water palm". Its English trade name is wax palm or caranday wax palm (it belongs to the same genus as the Carnauba wax palm).
 

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Thanks Woody, never heard of it before but I have now! Suspected that it might have been black palm simply because I was unaware of any other than, Red, Black and coconut being commercially available, It seems though that there is a whole host of variants that are sold under the "Coconut" umbrella.
 

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I am a fan of Red Palm however it is interesting to work with the Pen and Palm work well. Like the way you match the hexes close open it changes the dynamics I do it the other way but I always match grain with the tip extended.

Good combination Les.:claps:

Goodness I seem to abreviate please my explanation is not so obscure this kit is a painful one to line up the hexes on either end, now if you line them up then you have to decide whether to do this with the biro wound forward or back in this pen Les chose to wind the pen biro forward so the ends are the tip flat, the clip end half way pointed in the hex.

When I make this pen I align the two hexes facing the same way with the biro extended.

When I make a two piece pen I match the grain with the biro extended. Some do others dont.

Also when I first saw this Vertex Kit I thought I would make it this way See pic) of an African Blackwood on a Vertex.

Peter.:goesred:

For a while now I go onto the forum in between crises go off do the necessary stuff and relax for a bit when I have made replies they have been shortened to the extent they may not make sense some times. Apologies all
More treatment today maybe tomorrow will see me out of the woods. Sorry also Les if I intruded on your lovely pens.
 

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Peter,

It makes no odds whether the biro is extended or not for the purposes of hex face orientation they dont move, its a click pen not a twist.
 

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Woody, I think you've just done more research on palm woods than anybody ever before!
The truth is that correlating a particular palmwood to a particular species of palm tree is virtually impossible. I've never seen any articles on the subject, probably because the structure of palmwood is unique to palms which are in a special group of trees called monocotyledons (or 'monocots') and the wood structure is utterly different to mainstream trees which are dicotyledons ('dicots'). However, it's that unique structure that makes palmwood instantly recognisable even though the exact species of palm may never be known. Palmwoods don't show the infinite variety of structure that dicots exhibit.
It seems to be market practice to group palmwood by colour - red, black and much rarer, white. White palm as a timber certainly does exist - we both have a sample of it! But as to which species of palm we have, that will never be known I reckon.
As far as we know Red Palm is produced by the coconut palm, Cocus nucifera and Black Palm(ira) by either Borassus flabellifer or Caryota urens - but that's about as far as the science of it has ever taken me.

I have been googling again
Copernicia alba is a South American species of palm tree, which is found in the humid part of the Gran Chaco ecoregion in Bolivia, Paraguay, Colombia, Brazil (in the states of Mato Grosso and Mato Grosso do Sul) and Argentina (especially the province of Formosa, and less abundantly towards drier areas). They often, but not always, form dense single-species woodlands. Its common name in Spanish show the various colours (and technical qualities) that its wood and/or bark takes according to its environment: palma blanca, palma negra, palma colorada ("white", "black" and "red" palm, respectively). In Guaraní it is called caranday, "water palm". Its English trade name is wax palm or caranday wax palm (it belongs to the same genus as the Carnauba wax palm).
 

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Peter,

It makes no odds whether the biro is extended or not for the purposes of hex face orientation they dont move, its a click pen not a twist.

Great observationj having made quite a few of these orienting them during assembly is quite a trick also the kits vary in the depth of the biro when pressed always dependant on many factors. interesting semantics. Using hexes revealed a few Mayan like faces when I made this pen really enjoy shapes myself. After a few hours of sleep the whole world is great over here.

Peter.
 

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