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Seeing Dereks goblet reminded me of an unusual one I mad a long time ago in the same manner of the Victorians with a coconut shell they are a good challenge to those who dare enjoy
Woody... you say that this is Victorian and you make it a long time ago... Now I know that you're a legend in your own right and that you have a few years under your belt...
Which Victorians are you talking about the one over your way that didn't like sex, or the ones in Aust that are whining wineing mob down the bottom south east corner of Aust. Cold wet miserable place it is too.