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Slim stock

ValleyBoy

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Hello pen people

I’ve managed to acquire quite a lot of vintage (I overuse that word) cellulose acetate stock. I know some of you will be familiar with it and it’s lovely stuff. However there is a small problem in that it comes round and drilled, and the outside diameter is already very close to the finished diameter of a standard pen barrel (well my standard pen barrel at least). This means that if I want to make a pen in my usual way where the cap screws over the section and onto the barrel, and that is close to my usual sizes, then I can’t make the cap from the same material, but have to use something in a complimentary colour from wider stock. Are you still with me?

So I thought about how to make a pen that allowed all components (barrel, section and cap), to be made from this slim material whilst sticking close to the 13mm diameter barrel. In the prototype below, where I’ve used modern material to test the idea, the cap screws onto the end of the section, just covering the nib. This is not a new idea, other pen makers already do this, it’s just the conclusion I came to as the most viable way to solve my problem.

One of the obvious potential drawbacks of this design is that the action of unscrewing the cap may unscrew the section. (Newton’s laws dictate that both can’t happen at the same time, but Sod’s law says it will always be the section). Anyway there are ways around this. The one I’m considering is lengthening the section so the user will naturally be holding it when unscrewing the cap. But that’s why this is a prototype. It’s literally my first attempt with a no6 nib.

Anyway I thought I’d share a bit of my thinking on this as it’s quite interesting (I think!).

(The final picture is the first one I made that uses a no5 nib).

Cheers
Ash
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alan morrison

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Ash, I much prefer little or, in your case, no step up to the pen cap. It's a sleeker look. Pens with a large step up look out of balance to me.
Anyway, I like your solution and the pen is excellent.
 

Geoff Kent

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I like your thinking Ash.One question,the section thread that the cap screws onto,also the cap thread,looks very prone to damage if,heaven forbid,the pen was dropped.Is the cellulose very brittle?Sorry,two questions!:thinks:
 

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Very nice mate, I too like the stepless design it works very well with my bullet case pens.... I don't know why it's not more commonly used....
As to the material, I have some old Conway Stewart tubes and there mostly predrilled, as I do kit pens it's quite hard finding matching kits sometimes....
But all round stunning job on that... Love the level of finish you achieve:drool::drool:
 

ValleyBoy

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I like your thinking Ash.One question,the section thread that the cap screws onto,also the cap thread,looks very prone to damage if,heaven forbid,the pen was dropped.Is the cellulose very brittle?Sorry,two questions!:thinks:
Hi Geoff. So I think the no5 nib version is a bit closer to the wall thickness I would prefer. The no6 is pushing it a little but the cellulose is strong stuff (I don’t think it’s as strong as acrylic and I only really used it as the transparency allows me to see what’s going on inside). I don’t think it’s going to break easily but I’m using the pen myself for a while to work out what changes and improvements I might make.
Cheers
Ash
 

ValleyBoy

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Very nice mate, I too like the stepless design it works very well with my bullet case pens.... I don't know why it's not more commonly used....
As to the material, I have some old Conway Stewart tubes and there mostly predrilled, as I do kit pens it's quite hard finding matching kits sometimes....
But all round stunning job on that... Love the level of finish you achieve:drool::drool:

Thanks Mark
Yes I agree it looks better. I personally like to grip my pens a little further up the barrel, so pens that have steps on the barrel to allow a flush fitting cap aren’t as comfy for me. The nice thing about this design is the step is moved to the very tip of the pen so it’s not in the way of my grip, but still has a flush fitting cap. Win-win.
Cheers
Ash
 
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