Corky,
Welcome to the forum and I'll step up and apologise if I've offended you, hope I haven't but if I have it wasn't meant. I hope you continue to contribute. Let's not forget that nobodys perfect, as the host nation for one of the longest running civil unrest disputes that killed thousands (Northern Ireland) nobody's perfect although it does make your gun debate even more perplexing for us. I strongly dispute your comment of us being a civilised society! My ancestors had to flee from the north of the country suffering religious persecution only a couple of hundred years ago, many of them ended up in Utah, Canada and Australia (One had his picture on the Aussie $2 bill until 1986). As a civilised society they didn't represent it very well making fabric for the slave trade, and brutally murdering each other at almost every opportunity in the name of religion, and guns were prevalent around here then.
Anyway, not a subject for debate on a pen turning forum, but we're just a bit eccentric over here, tend to write or speak first and then think, except politicians, they miss out the thinking bit, first or last.
Hope you enjoy this forum, we'd be grateful of your experience.