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I would agree with that, I have a 14 mm and it ends up being a little thicker than an Emporer pen, anyone had one of those will know it's a chunky pen. 


TBH I used the 14's once as a commission job and never used them since :down:


I don't see that a 13 mm pen would be that much different of 0.5 mm thickness. :thinks:


If it was me I would go with 10s and 12s Phil.


Or even look at smaller than 10s then I may be interested..:wink:


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