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Most "Kitless" pens I have seen use Bock or similar nibs, feeds and sections. So James' description of a kitless pen is what I understand it to be
If you have the facility to make the nibs, feeds and sections then you have usually invested enough money to be called a pen manufacturer.

[QUOTE="chas_41_uk, post: 209761, member: 441"] Most "Kitless" pens I have seen use Bock or similar nibs, feeds and sections. So James' description of a kitless pen is what I understand it to be :thumbs: If you have the facility to make the nibs, feeds and sections then you have usually invested enough money to be called a pen manufacturer. [/QUOTE]

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