I knew it would be a good thread, spent an hour of my time catching up with the forum today..
I think the only time you can really charge for your time is when a customer wants you to make something bespoke, to their requirements or personalised...other wise you have to charge what the market is prepared to pay.
Nobody will buy a pen from me at £50 because I'm not a known brand like Parker but what I can offer is something different from the norm, so they don't mind paying more than they would for a simple biro pen from Woolies...
I'm stopping selling slimlines soon as to me they aren't worth the time and effort for what I can ask for them. I now look for pens that are £5 to £8 for a kit and charge a flat rate of £25 as that is what I've found is a price people like to pay me for them. It'll be different for others, but it's so simple when I get to the craft fair and put...all pens £25 each :)
Why won't anyone buy a pen from you at that price? It's up to you to sell it, I know I thought the same thing but I know it can and does work. Maybe its the "CRAFT FAIR" where the problem is. I know it was for me and still would be.
I don't blame you on the slimline front, I gave up selling those about 10 years ago. I don't buy them now, but have around 300 on stock. Grandson is making a mess of those right now. (selling them at £15 a shot at school)
When you get on to kitless pens, then they are another point where you can start and "name the price" as you can be very specific and once you get known for the right reasons then that's the right thing to do.
Getting the market, the price and what to sell are very difficult to gauge and manage.
Don't get me wrong, I don't sell many pens per year. What I do sell are top end to company directors and CEO's. They are a tough bunch to please. So much so that I don't even put those on here as I don't believe that they would like me to post them all over a forum for all to see.
But would the pens I sell make turn me in to a big moneymaking business? I don't believe it will. well I haven't ordered my new ferrari yet anyway.
Any I have posted on here I have asked if I could post them as advertising and get their permission first, that's the respect the customer deserves.
What I will say is value your pens as "a work of art" and not a "craft" as that changes the perspective straight away.
Maybe why Walter has his in an art galery