Clarke CWL6 Lathe

[ste297]

Hi i have recently bought a CWL6 lathe from ebay. It comes with a live and dead center, i was wondering if anyone else has one of these lathes and can help me

i am looking to get a 3 jaw chuck for it, but it has a 3/4UNC thread on the spindle. i have contacted Clarke and they do not make any chucks for this model and then have even stopped making a spindle which i could of fitted

i have found an adapter on ebay from america (Lathe Spindle Adapter 6 Sizes Fit Most Chucks 3/4x16 3/4x10 1x8 1-1/4x8 1-1/2x8 | eBay) but i was wondering where to get a chuck that will fit this adapter as i presume not all chucks are standard.

my other option is to find someone who can make something similar to above but instead of a male thread put a 60 degree taper on it and i turn between center

what is everyones preference turning between centers or on a mandrel

sorry for all the questions just i am new and would love help to get my first pen made

TIA Ste

 

[bassethound]

Steven have you tried Axminster?
Axminster Spindle Thread Adaptor - Chuck Accessories - Woodturners Chucks - Woodturning - Woodturning & Crafts | Axminster Tools & Machinery

I think they do all different ones!

 

[silver]

If I remember the head stock is MT1 so you could get a Mandrel to fit it.

However you have the necessary bits already to start turning to why pod out on a chuck when you can spend it on kits...

 

[Walter]

Hi i have recently bought a CWL6 lathe

You have my deepest sympathy.

 

[donwatson]

Record lathes are 3/4" x 16 TPI so I suspect there must be chucks to suit.

 

[Penpal]

Choose a small chuck or better still collet chuck do not buy it but consult an engineering establishment or knowledgeable member of the forum and get what you want madefirst.

Peter.

 

[wm460]

If you have a Morse taper in your head stock you dont need a chuck.
But if you do buy a chuck buy one that has removable inserts, so when you upgrade your lathe you only have to replace the insert.

 

[ste297]

You have my deepest sympathy.

i am begining to think that now aswell lol should of bought a more expensive one, if only i could of afforded it

i have look at the insides of the head stock and the spindle goes all the way through to the pulley system that turns it how will i find out if it is a MT1

 

[ste297]

Record lathes are 3/4" x 16 TPI so I suspect there must be chucks to suit.

the lathe that i have got is an early model and it comes with a 3/4" UNC thread on the end with is 3/4" x 10 TPI which is my problem lol

 

[Grump]

i have look at the insides of the head stock and the spindle goes all the way through to the pulley system that turns it how will i find out if it is a MT1

I think you will waste your time looking, it is a solid bar spindle on your model with no taper.
If you need a chuck, a face plate with chuck mounted is your best option.
You have a throw away lathe I am sorry to say, there are options but they are all a waste of money.
Use it till it dies or for practice until you get confident and competent, or convert it to a buffing / grinding station and get another lathe.

If you fancy a trip to Stevenage, I have tidied my shed today and relegated the old Charnwood to under bench status, too good to throw out and not good enuff to make my fortune so it's going begging init?
Have a play with my stuff and a chinwag, beer, tea, coffee or whatever takes your fancy within reason

 

[yorkshireman]

Go see Grump Steven, he'll point you in the right direction

 

[Phil Dart]

Nobody has asked the question - is there any particular reason why you want a 3 jaw chuck and not a 4 jaw? Am I missing something here?

 

[Jim]

If you can get to Stevenage Ste, and see our resident Grumps, you will find he is very knowledgeable and not grumpy at all ..

Nobody has asked the question - is there any particular reason why you want a 3 jaw chuck and not a 4 jaw? Am I missing something here?

I would think it is a four one he is after Phil ..

 

[Grump]

I think he just wants a chuck but it is presenting a problem, and will do.
My grandson rescued one of these things from a skip and we did get him kitted out but it soon went to another mug and we got him a better lathe.
I had money and a factory with a steelworks next door so it was easy to sort him out in those days but it was good money turned bad straight away.

 

[Penpal]

I am thinking share your thoughts one to one seeing is believing mate at this stage there is no way after the event but to either face up or suffer.Hope you solve the probs rang my mate yesterday and he had to change directions as I said to him and I believe it we dont have problems only solutions.

Peter.

 

[ste297]

thanks for all the advice. i wish i could get to stevenage but its a bit far. very nice of the offer tho grumps.

i was after for a 3 jaw to start with to make locating the mandrel alot easier then i would of changed to 4 jaw once i was set up.

i think i will turn between center to get the hang of it then upgrade to a better one when i got spare cash, any models i should be on the lookout for

 

[ni9eofse7en]

I would suggest you use what you have till funds allow for an upgrade. We all started somewhere, and you will create something's to be proud of, and hopefully it will be a first step to doing a truly enjoyable hobby. There are woodturning clubs within reach of your location, I do not know owt about them, but I am sure they will be able to help and guide you in partnership with the forum members on here. I found one initially the Cheshire guild of Woodturners. Plummey village hall

 

[Walter]

i was after for a 3 jaw to start with to make locating the mandrel alot easier then i would of changed to 4 jaw once i was set up.

i think i will turn between center to get the hang of it then upgrade to a better one when i got spare cash, any models i should be on the lookout for

You seem, and I apologise if I am mistaken, to misunderstand the differences between types of chuck. Three jaws chucks are almost invariably engineering chucks and offer no advantage over four jaw chucks in a woodturning context. All woodturning chucks are four jawed self-centering chucks so I cannot see why you think a 3 jaw chuck would make locating the mandrel any easier than a four jaw.

Also, unless I am mistaken the "dead centre" supplied with your lathe is a four prong drive centre and not the 60° drive centre that would be required to turn pens between centres. If you are planning to turn pens between centres then you will not find that possible with a four prong centre.

Buying the adapter you linked to from the US would, once you have paid carriage charges and the additional VAT and handling charges that would be added by HMRC and the carrier, cost you more that your lathe is worth (scrap value even when it was new).

With respect, I suggest that you do some research into what you actually need to start woodturning and pen making before you make any more unfortunate purchasing errors. John's suggestion of joining a club is a fine idea and an inexpensive way of learning a great deal.

I don't ordinarily promote my own book but, in the interests of helping you I shall deviate from my self imposed constraint, I believe that buying a copy could save you a lot of unnecessary expense and frustration:

Amazon.co.uk: Buying Choices: Pen & Pencil Projects

 

[yorkshireman]

Steven, if you want to nip round to my place I'm home this weekend - Wrexham - and you could have a look at my lathes.

 

[ni9eofse7en]

Steven, if you want to nip round to my place I'm home this weekend - Wrexham - and you could have a look at my lathes.

Ah, he's used them lines before, ever since they took his puppies away.