Vertex Click is a good kit as is the timberbits click but the latter is not a good seller, it lacks a bit of character. I agree that the remainder of Click kits belong in Davy Jones' locker and the bullett kits are one of the worst, marginally better than a complete airfix kit! The vertex click pencil is a great kit as well, very reliable. I get mine from woodturningz, very helpful people, talk to Patrick, Fritz or Ryan.