JR Gents Kit Issue

[Buckeye]

I said this about all metal threads ages ago but what do I know I really dont understand why all of a sudden people want metal just do the plastic thread properly in the first place this is one of the reasons I stopped buying J G and now the barron poor quality fittings trying to cut the cost

They started to use a thicker insert which also means the threads are deeper, the walls of the new inserts are minutely thicker than the old ones, so far they are much sturdier than they used to be.

With the Baron which of the fittings do you have a problem with is that also the cap thread?

Peter

 

[Walter]

I said this about all metal threads ages ago but what do I know I really dont understand why all of a sudden people want metal just do the plastic thread properly in the first place this is one of the reasons I stopped buying J G and now the barron poor quality fittings trying to cut the cost

I agree with you Woody, it is the quality of the material and the manufacturing that matters. Well cut threads in a good quality plastic work every bit as well as metal ones.

You just have to compare the threads in Dan's Omega with those on a JG to see what a difference it makes. I have posted this pic before in Brian's review thread, the Omega is on the right. And before someone tells me these aren't plastic, I know, but the threads in the caps of both pens are. This photograph is just to show the difference in the fineness and quality of the threads

 

[Grump]

Sounds like a load of bollocks to me, easier and cheaper to change the belt if that was the only issue?
It's about profit making not quality.

 

[Walter]

Sounds like a load of bollocks to me, easier and cheaper to change the belt if that was the only issue?
It's about profit making not quality.

True enough.

 

[Buckeye]

Sounds like a load of bollocks to me, easier and cheaper to change the belt if that was the only issue?
It's about profit making not quality.

Change it to what? The problem with metal threads is that they do rub any plating off over time so changing it to plastic makes sense. I have a stainless pen I made and that is fine with metal threads as there is no plating to grind away.

Peter

 

[Grump]

but the center band was scratched easily

Put a bit of plastic or any material between the flange and center band means no contact simples init?
Allow a micron gap, that's without thinking of solutions. there must be more alternatives without retooling.
I don't need to hear those silly excuses nor do you, accept it if you wish but it don't ring true to me.

 

[Buckeye]

Put a bit of plastic or any material between the flange and center band means no contact simples init?
Allow a micron gap, that's without thinking of solutions. there must be more alternatives without retooling.
I don't need to hear those silly excuses nor do you, accept it if you wish but it don't ring true to me.

That's what they have done if I understand you correctly, I am not sure I do, what silly excuses?

Peter

 

[Buckeye]

I have just re-read everything and yes I have misunderstood what you were saying. When I got the reply from rizheng I took "but the center band was scratched easily" to mean that it was the metal threads that were damaged as I couldn't see any way that the centre band itself could be damaged by metal threads. Sometimes things get lost in translation and you have to try and figure out what it means. I can't be bothered emailing them again to find out. At least I established that the cap does have plastic threads and not metal as Neil claimed.

Peter

 

[Grump]

The fact they are plastic doesn't make them poor.
It's the method, material and quantity that makes them poor.
I don't condemn them on plastic alone but having seen the quality deteriorate over the years that I complain about.
There have been changes and not for the better in my opinion.
It seems I stand alone in my quest to get improvement as all the time they sell there will be none.
I now have two kits I am happy to purchase, the threaded slimline and the Omega, I would like to see another added to that.

 

[Buckeye]

The fact they are plastic doesn't make them poor.
It's the method, material and quantity that makes them poor.
I don't condemn them on plastic alone but having seen the quality deteriorate over the years that I complain about.
There have been changes and not for the better in my opinion.
It seems I stand alone in my quest to get improvement as all the time they sell there will be none.
I now have two kits I am happy to purchase, the threaded slimline and the Omega, I would like to see another added to that.

These Jr.Gents are an improvement, actually what I should say is that the insert they now make is an improvement or so it seems, only time will tell if the threads give way or break up as they have done in the past, but they certainly feel much better.

Peter

 

[chas_41_uk]

That's unbelievably BAD Jim :nonono:
I'd send photos to the supplier with a complaint about the quality they should replace they FOC

 

[Jim]

Just an update to what is happening regarding this issue ..

I sent them an email on the 23rd, then again on the 26th as i had no reply, i then emailed again on the 27th around 11pm as again i had no reply! On the 28th i got a reply saying

"Sorry, we can not find the picture . Could you please send the picture for our checking again? Thanks. we will try our best to help you."

On each email i added attachments of the images which were added here in the forum, my guess is that they are playing for time.

I sent back links to the images rather than attachments, waiting on a reply ...

 

[chas_41_uk]

Maybe they don't know how to open attachments

 

[Buckeye]

Just an update to what is happening regarding this issue ..

I sent them an email on the 23rd, then again on the 26th as i had no reply, i then emailed again on the 27th around 11pm as again i had no reply! On the 28th i got a reply saying

On each email i added attachments of the images which were added here in the forum, my guess is that they are playing for time.

I sent back links to the images rather than attachments, waiting on a reply ...

Tell them there are several people on the forum awaiting the outcome and can they put the stuff they forgot to send me in with your replacements

Peter

 

[Neil]

I have just re-read everything and yes I have misunderstood what you were saying. When I got the reply from rizheng I took "but the center band was scratched easily" to mean that it was the metal threads that were damaged as I couldn't see any way that the centre band itself could be damaged by metal threads. Sometimes things get lost in translation and you have to try and figure out what it means. I can't be bothered emailing them again to find out. At least I established that the cap does have plastic threads and not metal as Neil claimed.

Peter

Peter, I never claimed that the threads in the cap were metal???? They are plastic.

 

[Jim]

Maybe they don't know how to open attachments

They would if it was an order ..

 

[Buckeye]

I think you should look again at the cap thread, in the ones I received they are still a plastic insert, when I asked them about the "adjusted" part of their blurb they said the plastic insert had been changed. I measured the Timberbits and the rihzeng kits the rihzeng kit inserts have slightly thicker walls, but they are still plastic.

Peter

You replied

The threads on the kits I have are metal, and to qualify what I wrote earlier, the comparison of the suppliers was specific to this kit only.

Peter, I never claimed that the threads in the cap were metal???? They are plastic.

Peter

 

[Neil]

You replied







Peter

Oh, hilarious, I burst my sides laughing.

I quite specifically referred to Pen threads, not Cap threads. Laugh laugh, hold my sides, ho ho ho

 

[Buckeye]

Oh, hilarious, I burst my sides laughing.

I quite specifically referred to Pen threads, not Cap threads. Laugh laugh, hold my sides, ho ho ho

Peter