Yellow Box Burl WASTE OF TIME and KITS

[wm460]

I have had blanks I bought in Aust covered in wax not very common, one lot from Tassie about 3/4", shrunk down to 1/2" I had bought 30 of the bloody things.

 

[Buckeye]

Have you seen Neils' roll ups? I'm sure he uses shavings of olive off his lathe.

More paper than tobacco

Peter

 

[Buckeye]

What hasn't been said is that the seller might well have nothing to do with the blank being fully waxed. Yellow box burr surely isn't common in the UK so possibly bought in and sold on?

It's still wrong imho to castigate the seller in public before contacting him privately for a response even though the frustration is obvious and understandable.
Maybe the seller should stick his head over the parapet now though as this could affect his future sales to other people. A lot of non members lurk around the forums as well remember.

Lee hasn't logged on since 24-04-16 08:35

Brad has asked that this thread be deleted so in a couple of minutes it will be gone.

Peter

On reflection and after consultation the thread will not be deleted.

 

[Phil Dart]

I don't see why. It's a usefull discussion. Ok,a wee bit of initial spleen venting, but at least we all now know about waxed blanks, moisture content, and the fact that Neil's packing in the evil weed

 

[GSteer]

Copied your moisture content details before it vanishes Phil, thanks again.

 

[Penpal]

One blank a split a dissapointment caused by a heavy disguise of wax if it creates a sense of why when the timber is freely available in full view oh what a wonderful thing it is to be able to buy on a face to face basis pen blanks of quality then pay cheerfully for the privilige.On the other hand some of the most exciting timber I have ever seen came from Tasmania entirely covered in wax. My treatment was to cut the covering off with the bandsaw but this involves having excess size to start with.

I would be interested in comments by blank sellers, not directed at this instance which has been aired necessarily. In the Us so many sellers show pics of at least two sides of blanks describe the grain etc on one cut face, two or all round also a marvellous thing, on one face it can be only skin deep and cuts out two faces better results and all round A plus stuff. Twenty years ago I paid twenty four US dollars for premium blanks per one sensational pens.

Happy pen making depends on reliable contacts.

Peter.

 

[wm460]

Lee may be away on holidays or some thing.
Does he advertise on other UK forums?

 

[Neil Lawton]

I have to say that I'm struggling to be subjective in this matter, but I feel I need to make my position clear.

Long before I started selling blanks this particular seller called me deluded, and an idiot, when I questioned the outrageous description of the quality of wood he had for sale. He also stated in that same reply that he would never post on here again!

He has continued posting but only when he has stuff for sale. I doubt he will see this thread unless told, due to the fact that he only ever posts, and looks in "buy and sell". Unlike most sellers on this forum, he does not actively take part in it.

At the time of these insults Jim was running the forum single handed, and I refused to respond and complicate Jim's job, or sink to a name calling "tit for tat", despite being contacted by many members with messages of support.

In all truthfulness, it was probably this episode which inspired me to go on to producing blanks for sale, and I'd like to thank the members on here for their repeated custom, and support.

I sell blanks sealed and unsealed, depending, but would never consider entirely sealing a piece. I sell wood with defects, splits, and punky, but I like to ensure that the customer knows exactly what they are getting. Some of the most challenging blanks can be the most rewarding.
I check weights and moisture content, and advertise accordingly. Because of this I would like to think that if any one has a problem with something I've provided, they would contact me directly, safe in the knowledge it would be put right.

Regards,
A deluded Idiot!

 

[Lons]

Neil

I very much doubt anyone on here would ever question your integrity or honesty and the blanks you list are superb. I've never had dealings with the guy involved but doesn't sound too good.

That was a very polite and subdued post from a guy suffering nicotine withdrawal btw.

 

[ataylor]

I have to say that I'm struggling to be subjective in this matter, but I feel I need to make my position clear.

Long before I started selling blanks this particular seller called me deluded, and an idiot, when I questioned the outrageous description of the quality of wood he had for sale. He also stated in that same reply that he would never post on here again!

He has continued posting but only when he has stuff for sale. I doubt he will see this thread unless told, due to the fact that he only ever posts, and looks in "buy and sell". Unlike most sellers on this forum, he does not actively take part in it.

At the time of these insults Jim was running the forum single handed, and I refused to respond and complicate Jim's job, or sink to a name calling "tit for tat", despite being contacted by many members with messages of support.

In all truthfulness, it was probably this episode which inspired me to go on to producing blanks for sale, and I'd like to thank the members on here for their repeated custom, and support.

I sell blanks sealed and unsealed, depending, but would never consider entirely sealing a piece. I sell wood with defects, splits, and punky, but I like to ensure that the customer knows exactly what they are getting. Some of the most challenging blanks can be the most rewarding.
I check weights and moisture content, and advertise accordingly. Because of this I would like to think that if any one has a problem with something I've provided, they would contact me directly, safe in the knowledge it would be put right.

Regards,
A deluded Idiot!

Nicely said mate without going in to a rant

 

[Penpal]

I have to say that I'm struggling to be subjective in this matter, but I feel I need to make my position clear.

Long before I started selling blanks this particular seller called me deluded, and an idiot, when I questioned the outrageous description of the quality of wood he had for sale. He also stated in that same reply that he would never post on here again!

He has continued posting but only when he has stuff for sale. I doubt he will see this thread unless told, due to the fact that he only ever posts, and looks in "buy and sell". Unlike most sellers on this forum, he does not actively take part in it.

At the time of these insults Jim was running the forum single handed, and I refused to respond and complicate Jim's job, or sink to a name calling "tit for tat", despite being contacted by many members with messages of support.

In all truthfulness, it was probably this episode which inspired me to go on to producing blanks for sale, and I'd like to thank the members on here for their repeated custom, and support.

I sell blanks sealed and unsealed, depending, but would never consider entirely sealing a piece. I sell wood with defects, splits, and punky, but I like to ensure that the customer knows exactly what they are getting. Some of the most challenging blanks can be the most rewarding.
I check weights and moisture content, and advertise accordingly. Because of this I would like to think that if any one has a problem with something I've provided, they would contact me directly, safe in the knowledge it would be put right.

Regards,
A deluded Idiot!

Fair comment especialy the thought to touch base with the supplier.

Peter.

 

[Neil Lawton]

Neil

That was a very polite and subdued post from a guy suffering nicotine withdrawal btw.

Thankfully I'm not suffering too much on that score Bob.
The doctor has advised me to use whatever nicotine fix replacement I like at the moment. Right now I just have to stop putting fags in my gob, and lighting them!
On an e cig for now, then patches when I return to work!

 

[yorkshireman]

Hello Neil, I've been on the ecigs since Xmas and they've worked a treat for me. Mind you I've put nearly two stone on and being vertically challenged as I am it's ever so slightly noticeable. Good luck mate.

 

[Penpal]

Gave up 60 a day 54 yrs ago know the feeling Neil they say it stunts your growth at 6 foot 2 I was meant to be a 7 foot basketballer? Heavy smoker at 15 yrs of age when I started work. Gave it up for the second time at 26 yrs of age if I have a nightmare now it is I have accepted a cigarette. Life in Oz for smokers in the last nights budget smokes to go to 40$ a pack.

Peter.

 

[woodwiseuk]

Blimey where to start (sorry for late reply busy with the nippers over bank holiday)

brad 10 more blanks will be out in the post as soon as i get them cut, i apologies about this but a PM or a quick call would of sorted this more efficiently but i suppose its a forum and people are here to chat so no problem.

the only explanation for the yellow box is that i had a lot of these in various different size lumps and some are obviously wetter than others and 19% is too wet but to touch its not so bad hence why i never picked up on it. I have sold alot of these with no complaints so a rogue lump of burl is too blame. If anyone else has an issue with these let me know.

some people are suggesting i deliberatley sold these knowing they were wet this is just simply not true. Anyone that knows me will know that i am as straight as they come i have worked very hard to gain an excellent reputation in the trade. i supply some of the worlds leading luthiers/instrument makers boatbuilders, etc etc if you have been watching the snooker lately my woods have made it on to the players cues, i recently sent some huge slabs of purpleheart to Bentley motors for a new line of interiors, My point being is that i do what i do very seriously and never would i intentionally mislead someone so i can make a quid or two. I dont post on other forums and the only reason i am on this one is because i was asked if i could join and supply wood to members at a discount.

Others are saying that i only post when i have something to sell and yes this is partly true ! i have wood to sell everyday but i dont post that much on here, I personally dont see this as a problem surely it can only make the forum bigger and better ? if you guys can get hold of some nice timber even some rarer stuff at a good price then is this not a good thing ? i would be interested to see comments on this if the majority of members agree that i am out of line i wont post its simple.

ok didnt want to get into this because its childish but neil has issues so i will set the record straight ......

I posted a while back with some very nice olive much better quality and cheaper than neils and he got his bottom lip out and scathed my post i have also noticed he keeps mentioning it recent posts. ( I also had messages of support saying his post was out of line even a few phone calls) But me being me he had it back both barrels. Cant remember calling him an idiot thats a bit naughty but if i did i probably meant it i am a nice guy but dont take crap from people.

If i had known neil was planning on selling olive on here i would not of posted it. I see he is an active member and contributes well to the forum in general ! i was not to know.

Anyway on a lighter note i have hundreds of exotic blanks that i have been gathering specifically for members allsorts of timber like black palm leadwood olive zebrano cherry ebony purpleheart afzelia etc etc this time and in future i will state seasoned or not. £0.50 per blank. This post was going up shortly if people disagree please let me know

Cheers Lee

 

[Buckeye]

Thanks Lee for your reply, I am pleased how you have responded to Brads concern, I didn't think you would do it any other way. If you want to post your blanks for sale please do, but please refer to my PM about the selling of low volume blanks.

Peter

 

[Bammer]

Thank you Lee.

I only used 2 blanks so sending another 10 isn't necessary.

I've trimmed the wax off 3 now and we'll see what happens to them in the airing cupboard.

My original post was vented out of pure frustration and red mist.

I have also managed to save the kits.

Thanks again for replying on here and to my pm.

Brad

 

[Jim]

We have no objections of you selling the blanks Lee, and thanks for the response, it helps with the issue ..

 

[wm460]

A successful conclusion, this problem solved.

 

[chas_41_uk]

A great conclusion to the issue