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I have tried CA before wiyhout much success, I have just finished a pen and the CA has worked and the finish is good. I was obviously doing something wrong before as I could never understand what all the fuss about fumes was, now having got a good finish I understand what other members meant. I now have to decide wether the fumes and irritation are worth putting up for a high gloss finish.

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Its good to hear that you've now cracked it but don't put up with the fumes and irritation... Are masks worth more than your health? Any organic filter should be ok and you can get them to fit most masks.
 

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As you say it's up to you to decide about the downfalls, I have never found any problems dealing with it myself, although i don't do that much i think it does a good finish..:thinks:
 

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Paul is right its not just the short term effect even worst is the long term effect after continued exposure or just use bloody polish LOL
 

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The fumes are indeed unpleasant and potentially harmful. as Paul suggests a suitably rated face mask will do the job, but I also prefer to draw the fumes away from me by using a dust extractor with the exhaust hose located outside the workshop or pointing at an open door.

Most importantly, do not use a woodworking powered respirator as the filters in those are not designed for chemical fumes and will actually draw the fumes in rather than protecting you.

bloody polish LOL

I know, damn immigrants, such a nuisance.
 

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The fumes are indeed unpleasant and potentially harmful. as Paul suggests a suitably rated face mask will do the job, but I also prefer to draw the fumes away from me by using a dust extractor with the exhaust hose located outside the workshop or pointing at an open door.

Most importantly, do not use a woodworking powered respirator as the filters in those are not designed for chemical fumes and will actually draw the fumes in rather than protecting you.



I know, damn immigrants, such a nuisance.



Unfortunately Trend don't seem to make organic filters for their mask so if you should use one of their masks whilst using ca it will suck the fumes in and feed them into your face....

If anyone has found organic filters for the Trend please let me know as I have a friend wanting to buy one and the lack of these filters is putting him off.
 

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You can get a 3M half face mask with Vapour/organic filters and they cut out the problems with dizzying chemical smells and irritants, they are not expensive and a CA finish is one of the best around especially if the pens are used and not just stored.

Peter
 

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I have done quite a bit of research over the years and worked along with Loctite at one point developing or trying to, a ca that would stick polyprop.
Limited success on that score but that diversifies.

As some or most of you know, I am also ultra sensitive to many of the chemicals used in these processes.
CA is not one of them, CA is an irritant to eyes and respiratory tract on a short term basis only.
It has no lasting effects other than short term cold or flu symptoms depending on the amount of exposure.
The mere fact it polymerizes within seconds means it cannot sustain any lasting effects nor can it build with timed exposure.
It is used widely in the medical profession to heal rather than harm.

Yes one should take steps to avoid breathing the vapours and be careful what you stick with it.
Due diligence as with all things but don't be frightened of it and don't fear it will kill you.
Don't try but it is impossible to swallow the stuff as the moisture in your body will polymerize it.

And them bloody polish have taken over my phone shop and have their own supermarket there now.
 

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An interesting article but it's a load of tosh.
I would suggest he has an underlying health issue that has not yet made itself apparent.
It may well be brought on by the use of ca but that is not what his or your problem is, get yourself checked out and mention this to the doctor.
 

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It has no lasting effects other than short term cold or flu symptoms depending on the amount of exposure.

I don't think that is quite accurate Brian. To quote from the SDS you provided a link to:

Loctite Safety Data Sheet said:
Prolonged exposure to high concentrations of vapours may lead to chronic effects in sensitive individuals.
 

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An interesting article but it's a load of tosh.
I would suggest he has an underlying health issue that has not yet made itself apparent.
It may well be brought on by the use of ca but that is not what his or your problem is, get yourself checked out and mention this to the doctor.

If I get a whiff of ca now I can't breath for quite a while. This doesn't happen with anything else so must be something to do with ca and when I use the respirator I don't get it. At one time I could breath as much ca as you like without effect but not any more.

I'm not going to the docs because they always give you more problems than you had when you go in... 2 years ago I went to them with sore shoulders. They ended up saying it wasn't sore shoulders it was high blood pressure. I'm not going again, who knows what they'll give me?
 

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sensitive individuals are scaremongers and should be put in a field and shot.
Along with many others I won't be allowed to mention.

I would suggest that prolonged exposure means what it says, hours of breathing fumes in one session.
Which I would also say is not gonna happen cos your system won't take much of the fumes at any one time init?
 
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