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Mandrel longevity

Midnight_Turner

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Miles, you've probably already realised, but when looking for a new lathe, don't forget to factor in the cost of new mandrels, chucks, etc if your morse taper and/or spindles sizes are different. :rolling:

Ssshhhhhhh - don't tell the mrs, we'll keep that one between you and me!! But yes, good advice there, hopefully looking for a small lathe with an MT1 fitting of such a thing exists


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EStreet

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Friends don't let friends use pen mandrel.

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I have this thing where "What is hers is mine and what is mine is my own" does this sound right
 

Penpal

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Melanie in these days of adapters the chuck compatability seems to be much better between lathes. I have tried always to keep away from No 1 Morse Taper so from lathe to lathe then is much easier, my belief is the increased strength in the larger taper is for me essential.

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Did someone mention a new Pro Edge?
Nobody is going to believe you without the piccies I'm afraid Mel:whistling:

Yes but not of the pro edge but of the nice sharp tool edges since that's what counts after all none of you can turn with a pro edge, so it doesn't matter what sharpener you have.

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Huh? You Ok Pierre? Of course it matters, otherwise we'd all have secondhand Clarke grinders.
Of course even a second hand Clarke grinder can sharpen a tool but you try putting one on a tool rest to make a bowl!! Its the tool edge (and shape) that is important, more expensive grinders merely have finer and better quality stones . and Pro edge is merely an automated version of the scary sharp system sold by Matt in Workshop Heaven. :winking:
 

Phil Dart

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Of course even a second hand Clarke grinder can sharpen a tool but you try putting one on a tool rest to make a bowl!! Its the tool edge (and shape) that is important, more expensive grinders merely have finer and better quality stones . and Pro edge is merely an automated version of the scary sharp system sold by Matt in Workshop Heaven. :winking:
The method of sharpening or the sharpener you have is not only pertinent to the degree of sharpness you will achieve, but is also dependent on the competence and skill required to use it. Moreover, something like the scary system is less than useless when it comes to grinding a fingernail profile on a bowl gouge. Therefore, taking your statement above in it's literal sense "it doesn't matter what sharpener you have", you are just plain wrong. It matters a great deal on the basis that it is the means to an end, the most suited to the task, and fit for purpose:tongue:
 

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I think it's a sad reality of life that many people don't have any disposable income left after bills, etc have been paid. Or, what is left has to be shared amongst treats for kids, days out, unexpected expenses, etc.

In an ideal world Walter's system would be great, but it only works if you are comfortably off enough to deal with all of the above and still have money left over.

My system still works however little you have Fingwe. Unless you want to get into debt you can only spend money you have. If there is only enough money to pay the bills with nothing left over then you simply do without the luxuries (like new lathes). I was not always as "comfortable" as Phil likes to think I am now and the system of each partner controlling their own finances worked when we had a massive mortgage and anything left over was allocated to furnishing a house from scratch. Those things and the other priorities you mention always come first. The only circumstance in which it would not work is if one partner has no income or there is a huge discrepancy between income levels. In those circumstances agreement about the distribution of diposable income would be needed. Note I said agreement though. Not imposition of one partner's priorities over the other. No-one should ever be seeking "permission" to spend their own money.
 

Bill Mooney

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I've been turning & sharpening tools for longer than I can remember as a professional & I had to learn over quite a long period how to repeatedly sharpen various types of tools correctly.
I can take a pro-edge out of the box, read the instructions, plug it in & sharpen a variety of tools correctly. This to me is a genuine advantage to anyone who needs sharp tools. Some think it unprofessional not to sharpen freehand. I don't because anything which can make the job easier & therefore allow you to do a better job & have a better end result is a boon.
 

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What is the slam bam cost of this pro-edge alongside other very best methods, is it designed to make mugs pros or pros mugs. A friendly question, including just how long before its cost is amortised against pens made, this is a lot of money when seen from afar. I have visions of all the demos, exhibitions, visiting worlds best turners and their recommendations.Coming back to the title of Mandrel longevity, past that to the discovery of a bent shaft in the guys lathe, new lathe comparisons etc altogether very interesting.

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